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	<title>Comments on: Jake Odorizzi, Kyle Skipworth, Aaron Hicks, Jemile Weeks</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-49165</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-49165</guid>
		<description>Imagine my surprise when I see that people are posting here long after I am. I'm sure you'll never see this but I'd feel better responding. 

As good as Odorizzi has been (and he's been truly fantastic, although he still walks a few too many for my liking) I don't believe anything I say has been contradicted. He's still several years away from realistically contributing at the majors and a ton can happen in that time. It just seems reckless to me to spend a first round pick along with first round money on a guy who has a long time to find a way to fail. 

It's the unsatisfying part about being a prospect fiend, every debate inevitably ends with "well, we'll see in five years... maybe".

Just look at Zach Stewart. He can look good, then look good again, then look good some more, but where is he now? Looking like a longshot to do anything useful at the majors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine my surprise when I see that people are posting here long after I am. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll never see this but I&#8217;d feel better responding. </p>
<p>As good as Odorizzi has been (and he&#8217;s been truly fantastic, although he still walks a few too many for my liking) I don&#8217;t believe anything I say has been contradicted. He&#8217;s still several years away from realistically contributing at the majors and a ton can happen in that time. It just seems reckless to me to spend a first round pick along with first round money on a guy who has a long time to find a way to fail. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the unsatisfying part about being a prospect fiend, every debate inevitably ends with &#8220;well, we&#8217;ll see in five years&#8230; maybe&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just look at Zach Stewart. He can look good, then look good again, then look good some more, but where is he now? Looking like a longshot to do anything useful at the majors.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-36977</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-36977</guid>
		<description>http://www.bnd.com/cardinals/story/966558.html

Just keeping you up to date my good friend. not a bad start. they even address his command for you in this articule.</description>
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<p>Just keeping you up to date my good friend. not a bad start. they even address his command for you in this articule.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-32952</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-32952</guid>
		<description>After a month off due to soreness in his right throwing forearm, due to a new breaking ball, Jake is pitching again. Now he's at 40.1 innings and has walked 6 hittiers. 3 of those were in his first outing of the year that lasted 4 innings. So since day #1 he's had 3 walks in 37.1 inningings. I'll beging one of these days to ask you to reconsider your comments about command as his cammand appears to be well in hand.

just holding you accountable as promised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a month off due to soreness in his right throwing forearm, due to a new breaking ball, Jake is pitching again. Now he&#8217;s at 40.1 innings and has walked 6 hittiers. 3 of those were in his first outing of the year that lasted 4 innings. So since day #1 he&#8217;s had 3 walks in 37.1 inningings. I&#8217;ll beging one of these days to ask you to reconsider your comments about command as his cammand appears to be well in hand.</p>
<p>just holding you accountable as promised.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-30166</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-30166</guid>
		<description>ACCOUNTABLE??? Peter accountable?? 
   Peter, I'm the one you referred to that used "6 innings of low A ball" to "convince" you that Zach Stewart was NOT the "worst pick" made by the Reds in 2008. He may never pitch an inning of major league ball, but the way he's soared through the Reds system (high A to AAA in just one season)it's easy to see he's NOT the worst pick the Reds made.  Anyone can make the predictions you've made, but why can't you be man enough to admit Stewart is not the worst pick made by the Reds in 2008?  I agree with Bob: you should be held accountable for the predictions you make and be man enough to admit when you are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACCOUNTABLE??? Peter accountable??<br />
   Peter, I&#8217;m the one you referred to that used &#8220;6 innings of low A ball&#8221; to &#8220;convince&#8221; you that Zach Stewart was NOT the &#8220;worst pick&#8221; made by the Reds in 2008. He may never pitch an inning of major league ball, but the way he&#8217;s soared through the Reds system (high A to AAA in just one season)it&#8217;s easy to see he&#8217;s NOT the worst pick the Reds made.  Anyone can make the predictions you&#8217;ve made, but why can&#8217;t you be man enough to admit Stewart is not the worst pick made by the Reds in 2008?  I agree with Bob: you should be held accountable for the predictions you make and be man enough to admit when you are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-27799</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-27799</guid>
		<description>Holding you accountable still as I promised to do.
Jake has thrown 27 innings and walked 5 guys. He walk
3 in his first 4 innings of the year.....cammand still intact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holding you accountable still as I promised to do.<br />
Jake has thrown 27 innings and walked 5 guys. He walk<br />
3 in his first 4 innings of the year&#8230;..cammand still intact.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-20309</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-20309</guid>
		<description>Jake is in extended spring training......he's going along well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake is in extended spring training&#8230;&#8230;he&#8217;s going along well.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-1987</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-1987</guid>
		<description>Jake did very well in instructional ball. Fastball still sizzling and with a better group of kids. Instruction was good. He made great progress. To be continued next year. Have a nice winter in the great white north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake did very well in instructional ball. Fastball still sizzling and with a better group of kids. Instruction was good. He made great progress. To be continued next year. Have a nice winter in the great white north.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-1113</guid>
		<description>so here's how it ended for the summer

11 games pitched
20.2 innings
18 hits
8 earned runs
18 hits
3.46 era
19 k
9 bb

one bad outing 7 hits and 4 earned runs in 1.1 in
or the era is 1.86 and hits are 11 (i know, horse shoes and hand grenades) Insteresting to see what they did with him. Two things really stand out which effect performance. 1) throw pitches on opposit counts. 3-2 count throw the change. 0-2 throw the fastball, etc. deffinately threw changes on counts as never before. 2) removed slide step when runners on base. this is a highschool move so the ball gets to the plate faster as catchers on the level don't throw guys out so often. Instead had him kick high, not caring is the guys on first stole, as the catchers in the bigs will have the arms to throw those guys out. 

So this was a teaching summer and outcome is not the concern. He comes back in the fall for prospect camp. 
Still ont he right track and the fastball is still a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so here&#8217;s how it ended for the summer</p>
<p>11 games pitched<br />
20.2 innings<br />
18 hits<br />
8 earned runs<br />
18 hits<br />
3.46 era<br />
19 k<br />
9 bb</p>
<p>one bad outing 7 hits and 4 earned runs in 1.1 in<br />
or the era is 1.86 and hits are 11 (i know, horse shoes and hand grenades) Insteresting to see what they did with him. Two things really stand out which effect performance. 1) throw pitches on opposit counts. 3-2 count throw the change. 0-2 throw the fastball, etc. deffinately threw changes on counts as never before. 2) removed slide step when runners on base. this is a highschool move so the ball gets to the plate faster as catchers on the level don&#8217;t throw guys out so often. Instead had him kick high, not caring is the guys on first stole, as the catchers in the bigs will have the arms to throw those guys out. </p>
<p>So this was a teaching summer and outcome is not the concern. He comes back in the fall for prospect camp.<br />
Still ont he right track and the fastball is still a winner.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-639</guid>
		<description>Here's the line on jake now. 
0-2 w/l
4.32 era 
16.2 innings
17 hits
8 eraned runs
6 bb
17 k's

They are throwing him every five days for mostly one inning. he had the one bad outing where he got rocked for 7 hits and 4 earned runs in 1.1 innings. he is walking more guys then he did in high school. he is being taught to throw the change a lot. (from what i've heard)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the line on jake now.<br />
0-2 w/l<br />
4.32 era<br />
16.2 innings<br />
17 hits<br />
8 eraned runs<br />
6 bb<br />
17 k&#8217;s</p>
<p>They are throwing him every five days for mostly one inning. he had the one bad outing where he got rocked for 7 hits and 4 earned runs in 1.1 innings. he is walking more guys then he did in high school. he is being taught to throw the change a lot. (from what i&#8217;ve heard)</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thebaseballhub.com/uncategorized/jake-odorizzi-kyle-skipworth-aaron-hicks-jemile-weeks#comment-556</guid>
		<description>He got rocked for the first time in his life the other day. 1.1 innings seven hits, four runs, 1 bb, 1 k, 1 balk. from what i'm told it's a mental game now as the mechanics of a "big leager" are being taught and the result isn't cared so much about. still got rocked....interested to see how he comes back from this as again it has never happened to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got rocked for the first time in his life the other day. 1.1 innings seven hits, four runs, 1 bb, 1 k, 1 balk. from what i&#8217;m told it&#8217;s a mental game now as the mechanics of a &#8220;big leager&#8221; are being taught and the result isn&#8217;t cared so much about. still got rocked&#8230;.interested to see how he comes back from this as again it has never happened to him.</p>
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